2018-06-16: General Discussion

discussion notes

  • Trying to understand Sam Harris

    • Care vs Liberty may be Big 5 Agreeableness

    • Peterson says Sam doesn’t take God seriously enough

      • Not as serious as Dostoyevsky, Solzhenitsyn, and Nietzsche, which are the other players Sam is contending with
  • What is Sam’s god and atheism?

    • God: Supernatural entity

    • Atheism, not believing in the supernatural

    • Claim: we don’t need to inherit our morality from the stories we grew up with

  • Problem with it

    • One can move away from the supernatural stories, but they can only replace their God

    • Religion -> Ideology -> Uberman

      • Leaving religion

        • Became more acceptable

        • But they swapped out supernatural god (God) for manmade god (Satan)

          • Nihilism (cognitive dissonance) or Ideology (evil is good)
  • God is an ideal, where all the rules/spirits converge

    • Satan is anything that doesn’t lead to the ideal

    • Still need value judgement; Ought vs Is

    • Once you have judgement, you have the ideal

    • Whim/impulse is your god - Hedonism

    • Gods as men - Hitler, Stalin, Obama

    • Faceless gods - ideologies - feminism, marxism, communism

  • Well what is the ideal?

    • Rand

      • Spirit

        • Reason - always check your suppositions
      • Idols

        • Prime movers vs second handers
      • God, what is worshipped

        • Man’s creative spirit - the unique characteristic of men
      • Selfishness and Cynicism

        • Have to be cooperative to get what you want

        • No ability for abuse

          • If others live for you, you can tyrannise them

          • If you live for others, you can tyrannise yourself and others can

  • Well what about meaning

    • Prepare yourself for the calling

      • Leverage your past with the strength of today to protect your vulnerable future self

        • Compounded interest - Law of increasing returns
    • Meaning often comes in hindsight

    • Entrepreneurship

      • Personal development as important career developer

      • Can’t have a career if you can’t get out of bed

    • Meaning is localised, but who wouldn’t benefit from pursuing creativity over stagnation???