study group discussions
Discussion as part of our Jordan B Peterson Study Group.
Discussion as part of our Jordan B Peterson Study Group.
8:00 - interaction operates within the constraints of social expectation, which is based on a cultural map of expectations built into our perceptions, that dictates how we operate - if that mapping, if that social expectation does not coincide, then conflict ensues
11:00 - cultural social expectations are really desires of how people should act - a culture is often willing to fight to the death to preserve their culture because it is the foundations of how people should act to be prosperous
<< ties into Defoe’s Treatise of Marriage book >>
cultural conflicts actually does destabilise people
12:00 - interesting, that political factions will cause more than just resource conflicts, but conflicts of existential crises due to the conflicts of how people should act
19:00 - it’s a happy day when the hypothalamus is not telling you what to do - you live in a tranquil state
20:00 - low IQ is one of the things that predisposes you to PTSD
21:00 - there is nothing more important to our sanity that having our expectations/desires of society match the actions of society (as such one must change their expectations/desires, or change society) otherwise emotions get dysregulated into combat mode
26:00 - happiness makes you impulsive, and that is not a good state to be in
33:00 - as soon as you get compliance you want to reward that instantly - as it promotes more compliance
35:00 - it’s very hard to realise when things are going right to reward them, as our survival mechanisms are optimised for detecting threats and eliminating threats
37:00 - you must keep your relationship with children pristine, that is to say no grudges, as they do not understand grudges and they change constantly, so a pristine relationship is much better for teaching them through interactions of better ways to be
39:00 - after 4, it is virtually impossible to rectify anti-social behaviours in children - between 2 and 4 your goal should be to raise your child to be a functional piece of unity, such that they can devote themselves to an altruistic goal for a reasonable length of time - integrating their emotions and motivations together under social influence
41:00 - the point of tea parties, playing, games, and nursing
46:00 - competition requires cooperation, as one competes with the social constraints of rules, which is society - a hockey game is a competition of two teams which cooperate together to follow the rules of the game
49:00 - winning is being invited to play all the games, because you are a good player - who excels at competition to accomplish/envy and cooperation to assist/idol
55:00 - no goal, no positive emotion, because positive emotion is the movement towards a goal, and if there is no goal, there is there is no movement towards a goal, so there is no positive emotion
55:30 - a goal should ideally be a goal that others wish to help you on, and which helps you accomplish other goals, and which help teaches you how to accomplish other goals - you may be able to find through evaluation these factors within any goal
58:00 - you set a goal to accomplish the goal to be able to get a better goal - this process provides your life with meaning, it is the only process that does - other things that provide meaning are forms of this process - the trick is to figure out what is a really good goal
1:04:00 - that’s life - life is a hydra, snakes everywhere, you cut one off, seven more grow <- solution, well what could you do about that? loaded question, as it provides the presupposition you can do something about that, returning control - by confronting the chaos, you get stronger, and you grow your shield - if you run from the snakes, the snakes grow and get bigger, and that is not a solution to life as there reaches a point where there is no recovery
1:11:00 - to conquer the dragon you must acknowledge, identify, understand, and hone the part of you that is monstrous, so you can use it conquer demons
1:11:30 - if you are a monster but you chose not to be a monster or use your monstrosity for good - you become virtuous (more or less the notion of the movie Suicide Squad) - the harmless are not virtuous, they are just harmless (what about Ghandi… he had plenty of courage, and is considered quite virtuous)
1:38:00 - there are always opportunities for elevating your sights within your capabilities for wherever you happen to be
1:40:00 - if you are honest then reality is on your side - if you are deceitful then you are fighting reality and it will smash you back to the extent of your lies
1:45:00 - what the hell is the conscience (sometimes it is a voice, sometimes it is a feeling, sometimes it is neither!) - a Freudian perspective is it is an instantiation of society within your mind
1:49:00 - you can at least know what you shouldn’t be doing, and if you stop doing those things, things will get better - what things should I stop doing, which I could stop, and would stop, that will make my life better
1:56:00 - your conscious is not omnipresent, if it was, you could just do everything it said and be sorted - however your conscious like yourself is something you grow with and converse with over your life to develop into a more developed person
1:58:00 - you are a marionette/puppet of your culture - but hopefully you can become more than that, in a wise way, and not a puppet of another system but a strong independent person with good roots in reality who cooperates with others and competes within systems of reality
1:59:00 - you are a product of culture and nature, however you are also a product of YOU - the hero determines their own character, they become who they want to be, not forced to be it or resign to it, someone else does not determine it for them
2:19:00 - values and conscious rules often have conflicts - this is very difficult to navigate
9:00 In order to actually see the dominance hierarchy at play, look at the structure of the environment for clues
15:00 Hobbes Philosophy and Russo’s philosophy need to be used together.
34:00 Notice and appreciate anytime someone does something good. Reward is incredibly useful.
1:10:00 The world (and stories) exist inside of logical fallacies.
1:17:00 The image of the father virgin mother and son has been around for thousands of years prior to Christianity.
1:18:00 The Origin and History of Consciousness
1:30:00 People might be using the excuse of nihilism/postmodernism as justification for them to never do anything meaningful with their lives.
1:30:00 To have ultimately meaningful life means to adopt ultimate responsibility.
1:40:00 Faith and wisdom are feminine
1:42:00 Belief is acting out your ideas.
2:19:00 The world’s too complicated to just live life by 5 rules.