Maps of Meaning #4


(Benjamin Lupton) #1

Discussion thread for 2017 Maps of Meaning - Lecture #4

study group discussions

Discussion as part of our Jordan B Peterson Study Group.

podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAFUl40fXk


2017-02-17: Maps of Meaning #4
2017-12-23: Bible #4, Maps of Meaning #4
(Benjamin Lupton) #2

my notes

  • 11:00 - soviets used victimisation to fail at harvesting and kill millions of people

  • 23:00 - incentive reward (enthusiasm and analgesic) vs consumerist reward (satiated and temporary) - analgesic suppresses negative emotion

  • 29:00 - criticism of hedonism vs conscientiousness - no point being conscientious is stable societies, as variations kill them

  • 33:18 - it might be that the sense of meaning that life can provide to you, is proportionate to the amount of responsibility you are willing to take on

  • 36:30 - it doesn’t matter what he is saying is incoherent and doesn’t make much sense - what he is selling is easy to buy, so Pinocchio buys it

  • 37:00 - shedding responsibility by finding excuses in things that were once innocent - sickness - you never ever want to use sickness/anything as an excuse for not doing what you wanted to do - as it will muddy the waters of responsibility and screw you

  • 45:55 - always ask yourself when there is someone you dislike or even like, what would have been the circumstances that must have befallen them that made their current state a necessary part of them - if someone is cynical, think about what circumstances must have caused the cynicism - if someone is enthusiastic, think about the circumstances that has caused it and lead to the establishment of that positive action, recognition, and pattern - although there is no direct causal pathway, so it is still speculation, but useful speculation as it is insightful

  • 53:55

    • << the house destruction scene reminds me of the recent antifa/black-bloc riots >>
  • 55:35 - the reason people tear things down is so they don’t have to see the virtue they lack embodied in something - the embodiment is a contrasting reminder of what they lack - so the destruction of it, destroys the reminder, so they can be carefree

  • 58:00 - ambivalent

  • 1:00:00

  • 1:01:00 - as a society degenerations, one has to be offered more and more stupid amusements to prevent them from realising what is going on - bread and circus -there was a part in the previous lecture about the accessibility of entertainment, where the “dumber” the entertainment the greater the size of the audience who will be fond of it - could these two points be related - where the media is distracting us, rather than enhancing us?

  • 1:03:00 - standing up and proclaiming rules does not work

  • 1:11:00 - guy is so naive to his own imperfections he is a totalitarian in training, and he smashes the mirror, the last hope at redemption - destroys his capacity for self-consciousness

  • 1:13:00 - sometimes to escape, you have jump into the unknown, which is scary - when you go from a bad place to a better place, you go to a worst place first - that is a great thing to know, as it tells you why you might be unwilling to take the next step

  • 1:15:30 - you can’t run back into who you are - as you are a new person with new experiences and knowledge

  • 1:19:00 - you only become a man once your father dies (which can happen metaphorically)

  • 1:21:00 - the answers you look for are never in your parent’s home, if you look there, you will get stale like bread that has been around too long

  • 1:23:00 - unless you are seeking something, you will not see things related to it

  • 1:24:00 - when you are rebuilding the broken pieces of your life, you are looking for the spirit needed to turn the unstable chaotic state in a new stable reality - this fantasy will make new things visible to you to help you on your journey

  • 1:30:00 - the more articulate person always rises

  • 1:45:00 - old can mean the lack of play - play is needed to do new things that you haven’t done before - doing the same things will only last so long, before it becomes no longer fruitful

  • 1:49:00 - you need to see the macro problem and the micro problems, and tackle both - if you just see and tackle the micro problem, you are doing busywork and are blind to your journey - if you just see and tackle the macro problem, they you get nothing done and make no progress towards solving it - never lose sight of the macro problem, because ending up lost in a bad place is worse** than stagnating?**

  • 1:52:00 - if you are unwilling to admit your insufficiency, then you will not be able to go on the pursuit to get help, ask the question, and seek the change - humility is the antidote to arrogance, as it means you still have something to learn and you are a student, an always honourable thing

  • 1:54:00 - benevolence kills innovation, as benevolence is respect and admiration for the way things are - not what they could become > probably why frustration is such a good force for innovation2017 Maps of Meaning #3